We sit down with designer Katie Lim this week. Katie shares her backstory and experience designing toys for kids and dogs. We dive into the topic of working too hard and burning out. Give us a call on our google voicemail 1-646-494-4011 or send in a question to firstname.lastname@example.org. You can find us on instagram @minordetailspod, @nickpbaker, and @idrawonreciepts. Come join the conversation on the discord.