We have Joey Zeledón pick up his life story after taking a sabbatical in Costa Rica. Joey talks about working at Smart Design and Steelcase. Joey discusses the backstory behind his Touchy Feely project. We dive into the topic of design research and Joey shares some news for his next venture in Barcelona. Give us a call on our google voicemail 1-646-494-4011 or send in a question to firstname.lastname@example.org. You can find us on instagram @minordetailspod, @nickpbaker, @idrawonreceipts, and @joey.zeledon . Come join the conversation on the discord.